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Changing the system: Brian Eno and James Thornton in conversation

Join Brian Eno in conversation with James Thornton, CEO and founder of ClientEarth, a pioneering environmental organisation, and discuss how we can use the power of the law to protect the planet. This special event was chaired by science, natural history and environmental broadcaster Liz Bonnin.

Listen now

This talk was recorded by the BBC for the Radio 5 Live show What Planet Are We On? and is available to listen to on BBC Sounds (opens BBC Sounds website).

About the talk

Discover how we can use the power of the law to fight against climate change, protect the environment and build a future in which people and the planet thrive together.

Liz Bonnin leads the conversation with Brian Eno, who is a dedicated climate campaigner and Trustee of ClientEarth as well as a renowned musician, record producer and visual artist, and James Thornton as they talk about their pioneering work using the law to bring about systemic change that protects life on Earth.

ClientEarth's team of lawyers, scientists and policy experts have used their environmental expertise to achieve powerful change, from winning court cases over illegal air pollution, to writing laws to ensure that there will still be fish in the sea in the future.

Hear more about the landmark changes in law and policy which have been made possible by their work and discuss their predictions for the future and ideas for what we can all do to play our part.

This event is part of the Science Museum Group's series of Climate Talks.